THREADS ‘Footnotes’ / Alex Rose interview

Words & interview by Aymeric Nocus
The Threads Idea Vacuum has been blowing minds for twelve years now, influencing a full generation of skateboarders with an eye out for the independent worldwide, and refining a very specific aesthetic and approach to the process, really imprinting its mark. Footnotes is their eighth production and will be premiering this year at Vladimir Film Festival. We caught up with key instigator of the movement Alex Rose in order to learn just a bit more.
Q: Let’s pretend I am out of the loop (to a very certain degree I am a little); how many Threads videos has it been now since 2014? How would you encapsulate of the history and evolution of what has become a legitimate series now? How has it been paralleling the crew’s possible changes in lifestyle and also the documented scenes and skating? What should we expect from the new one, how long have you been working on it, and where was it filmed? Any specific direction for this new piece, or is it more of a natural extension of the former?
Alex Rose: First Threads video was in 2014 so yeah, twelve years. It has gotten easier in some ways and harder in others, for sure.
For official Threads full-lengths where everyone works together and contributes footage for parts, this will be our eighth. Threads, Headcleaner, Threadcleaner, Supervisual, Pacemaker, Think & Thank, Magnetic Tape & Soul — now Footnotes.
Our goal is to get to ten full-lengths.
We’ve also had five additional videos by individuals under the Threads moniker. Ben Schmidt made My Front Stoop, Vacant Street Blues, and Crossover. Josh Shupe made Conjure. Chris Thiessen made Old Earth.
Q: About the first videos covering up a lot of U.S. territory and working as a network. Was the original idea influenced by Josh Stewart’s Static series perhaps (the first one in particular)? Because on paper, the description reads like a more ‘tech’ version than what he was doing at the beginning; the same ambitious endeavour that is making an underground scene video of a national scale, but with modern communication and file sharing tools that would make teamwork now more possible, if not logical, than before, when solo or isolated projects organically just made sense.
A.R: That makes sense to compare to Static- in the scope of a nationwide independent video. I would just say that the goal is different in that we want contributors to feel a level of ownership. People have the opportunity to work together on the edits, music selection, etc. It’s hard work and a lot to ask of people to forego their individual visions, so we want them to feel that Threads is theirs.
The history; It started with Creasy and I working with a core group of skaters from Atlanta and Tennessee, which worked so productively that we wanted to incorporate more scenes and contributors. We had Marshall Nicholson in Florida, Chris Thiessen in California, Ben Schmidt in Baltimore — and Josh Shupe and Bryan Reynolds here in the south filming and working in the studio with us to make these elaborate videos that covered a lot of U.S. territory.
Those types of videos were really fun to work on with everyone. Spirits were high and there was a lot of internal buzz from the rapid progress we would be making towards our goals. It felt like that kind of independent and collaborative effort had a ton of steam at the time, not only in our crew but in skating as a whole. Even though Creasy had moved to California we were as close as ever and the momentum carried us until about Think & Thank, around the time that Covid had set in and the world was trying to adapt to the uncertainties of the situation.
We always kept skating and filming with our friends and setting goals to include specific people, but some of the collaborative experiment started to show cracks. People who were key parts of the series started showing interest in doing their own videos, and communications fizzled or it was understood they would put their efforts into their own projects. I think that’s completely understandable, skating is a finite thing, and everyone has their own goals. It would bother the people who were still focused on Threads, but of course we all respected and appreciated our friends who wanted to do their own thing. The rad part about it — everyone’s solo stuff was so good. Ben came out with two videos on his own that are some of my favorite videos ever. Thiessen started Free Travel and made videos with other brands, applying the techniques we developed together with Threads and grow without the bounds of a big video. I think that time period was a blessing in disguise for Threads, because as of recent — people are coming back into the picture again, with the same enthusiasm as when we initially realized that the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
Getting older makes it harder and is a greater sacrifice of time and effort than when we all started on this together, but it makes it even more apparent that we need each other if we’re going to continue in this direction. It’s more important now than ever to have patience with the process and give everyone their space to express themselves.
Footnotes was filmed during a time when Threads felt truly small. A realistic goal was to get full parts from three people: Herbert Brown, Alex Reed and Edgar Hernandez — with the hope that the core crew could stack enough footage to justify a full-length. That all developed steadily at home, but along the way, a few big things happened for the video and Threads as a whole.
1.) Myles Willard moved back to Baltimore, and he and Ben agreed that it would be best if he had a part.
2.) Creasy and Noe Norris started getting footage, which turned into a unique section of the video and put the Long Beach crew back together.
3.) We visited Andrew Edge in Atlanta, and the trip was so productive that we decided to commit to making a full part. That turned out to be some of our best times making the video together.
4.) We reconnected with Chris Thiessen who had been quietly stacking a part with Julian Davidson, which was a surprise for us. He contributed that part and we are so stoked to have Chris back involved. He has some big ideas for the next video.
Footnotes’ title refers to Threads’ aesthetic of making connections to the video through text and references to our inspirations. Footnotes, as a continuation, is a perfect description. I think we will look back on it as the video that kept momentum alive for Threads to continue, as well as some of our best collaborative work between skateboarders and filmers. It took three years to make, which is long for us. We committed to people outside of our immediate cities. Edgar in Nashville, Andrew in Atlanta, and Myles in Baltimore, which took a lot of time and space to accomplish.
Q: I appreciated all of the cultural nods to other videos, whether within the Threads series itself or not but then still rooted in and referenced as influences. Culminating with moments like the Natas tribute as far as replicating a 40 years-old clip. Herbert Brown part was such a great opener, he looks so natural I wondered if the part also just came about organically like that.
A.R: Herbert’s part came around very naturally; he was finished (minus a clip or two) nearly a year ago just from being on sessions wherever we happened to be skating. This is our third part together and we’ve been extremely deliberate in the past (not saying that nothing about this part was deliberate), but this one was mainly about lines and style with a handful of single tricks that we went after deliberately. Herbert’s style has become so developed and loose for lines and minimal spots… I’m really glad we were able to show that.
Q: One thing I found remarkable was the inclusion of so many house spots as in, backyard ramps and D.I.Y. skatepark set-ups. I thought that was fresh to include, maybe you would have detail to share on how those clips and sections came about (just not the addresses!) and also the moment it clicked whilst making the video that there was going to be some focus on such constructions.
A.R: The backyard sections were a big change for me to include too. It started with Chris Head’s (internetless farmhouse). During Covid times, he started to pour and build stuff in his backyard garden. I have been friends with Chris for a long time, but hadn’t spoken too much with him when he sent me pictures and clips he had filmed of himself there. He had plans to get us down there to film stuff, and it looked so interesting and fun to skate that we knew we had to show it. It was truly impressive to see how much work he had put into it, and he still hasn’t shown the garden anywhere online — this is the first look.
The coolest part for me personally was reconnecting with Nick Turner. Nick is from the generation of skateboarders before me, and he’s from our hometown, Chattanooga. He’s a legend in the Southern U.S., and he just so happened to be skating a lot during Covid times, so getting a bunch of clips with him there was amazing. Now we talk and fish together a bunch, which has been a blast. The segue to Andrew Edge and throughout Myles Willard’s part all reference Nick Turner and the Ruin Skateshop crew’s video Nouveau, that Matt Creasy made in 2004. That video is really important to all of us; I think everyone should check that one out, it’s one of the most endearing videos ever in my opinion.And the spine ramp is here in Chattanooga. It’s this skater from Florida, Pete’s, ramp. He invites a lot of people to skate it often — online he is @mini.onthemountain if you want to see more of it. The location and house is amazing, and it reminded me of the Elliot Skate ranch ramp in G&S Footage so much. Not just the ramp, but the energy of everyone dropping in on each other, like Doug Smith’s part in that video, where he’s dodging people and doing lines. I always thought that part was so dope, so it incentivized me to use that stuff. It was also a convenient segue between Alex Reed and Warner King’s parts. I knew we had to include ramp stuff in the video because we want to show people’s styles and how they really skate. It would be a disservice to have Alex and Warner in the video without showing that side of their skating, because they really rip on transition.